Comments on: City of Yarra elections – honesty and accountability http://indolentdandy.net/fitzroyalty/2008/11/13/city-of-yarra-elections-honesty-and-accountability/ hyperlocal news and reviews about Melbourne's first suburb: Fitzroy 3065 Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:23:05 +1100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: brian http://indolentdandy.net/fitzroyalty/2008/11/13/city-of-yarra-elections-honesty-and-accountability/#comment-21976 brian Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:41:46 +0000 http://indolentdandy.net/fitzroyalty/?p=3165#comment-21976 Hi Anthony, thanks! This is why I was so annoyed at the council elections - too many candidates running out of selfish self interest and self importance rather than finding practical solutions to local problems. With the new Greens / ALP mutual are licking alliance nothing has improved. Hi Anthony, thanks! This is why I was so annoyed at the council elections – too many candidates running out of selfish self interest and self importance rather than finding practical solutions to local problems. With the new Greens / ALP mutual are licking alliance nothing has improved.

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]]> By: Anthony http://indolentdandy.net/fitzroyalty/2008/11/13/city-of-yarra-elections-honesty-and-accountability/#comment-21969 Anthony Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:17:43 +0000 http://indolentdandy.net/fitzroyalty/?p=3165#comment-21969 hey Brian, thanks for your comment on my blog ( http://nocomply.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/tom-mcfeely-for-yarralangridge-local-council ). been occasionally reading yours for quite a while now & loving it every time i do :) you're right, Tom is off with the faries on local issues (no pun intended, besides that's about the only thing Tom & I have in common!). why'm i not surprised that yet another Boomer just doesn't get it? banning public drinking ( practised by law-abiding citizens in parks for far longer than i go back) is yet another erosion of personal freedoms that some people think is reasonable in "our difficult times", when in fact it's simply an admission that the mechanisms in place to deal with antisocial drinking behaviour are insufficient or poorly funded. but why let the truth get in the way of rational decision-making when banning public drinking will boost business, eh? hey Brian, thanks for your comment on my blog ( http://nocomply.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/tom-mcfeely-for-yarralangridge-local-council ). been occasionally reading yours for quite a while now & loving it every time i do :)

you’re right, Tom is off with the faries on local issues (no pun intended, besides that’s about the only thing Tom & I have in common!). why’m i not surprised that yet another Boomer just doesn’t get it?

banning public drinking ( practised by law-abiding citizens in parks for far longer than i go back) is yet another erosion of personal freedoms that some people think is reasonable in “our difficult times”, when in fact it’s simply an admission that the mechanisms in place to deal with antisocial drinking behaviour are insufficient or poorly funded. but why let the truth get in the way of rational decision-making when banning public drinking will boost business, eh?

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]]> By: brian http://indolentdandy.net/fitzroyalty/2008/11/13/city-of-yarra-elections-honesty-and-accountability/#comment-21853 brian Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:53:53 +0000 http://indolentdandy.net/fitzroyalty/?p=3165#comment-21853 Thanks for your comment! Tom's pub is one with the straight ban isn't it? As a straight man, albeit one that hates macho thugs, I can understand this. But I thought he also banned lesbians. Actually, I've never understood the political divide that sometimes emerges between gay men and lesbians. Anyway, he definitely does not understand the local community on other issues, such as transport. The Socialists and the Greens will hopefully hold the ALP to account. Thanks for your comment!

Tom’s pub is one with the straight ban isn’t it? As a straight man, albeit one that hates macho thugs, I can understand this. But I thought he also banned lesbians. Actually, I’ve never understood the political divide that sometimes emerges between gay men and lesbians.

Anyway, he definitely does not understand the local community on other issues, such as transport. The Socialists and the Greens will hopefully hold the ALP to account.

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]]> By: darren http://indolentdandy.net/fitzroyalty/2008/11/13/city-of-yarra-elections-honesty-and-accountability/#comment-21851 darren Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:24:33 +0000 http://indolentdandy.net/fitzroyalty/?p=3165#comment-21851 Why should drinking be restricted to licensed premises? Why can't I share a bottle of wine in a park at a picnic? The only reason I can see is for the benefit of the venues holding the licenses. Tom can dress it up how ever he wants but his policies were largely alcohol-centric and were a conflict of interest. And what was he trying to do making it harder for cyclists because it's inconvenient for car drivers - get with the 21st century Tom...driving a car is bad! Anyway the election results tell Tom what the residents of Langridge think of his policies. They're not the right fit! Tom should put energy into trying to repair the wedge he drove between gay males and the rest of society through his elitist door polices. Thanks for that Tom. You do not represent me as a gay male and you do not represent me as a resident of Langridge. Yours sincerely Darren "I'm Gay, I Cycle and I Vote" Why should drinking be restricted to licensed premises? Why can’t I share a bottle of wine in a park at a picnic? The only reason I can see is for the benefit of the venues holding the licenses. Tom can dress it up how ever he wants but his policies were largely alcohol-centric and were a conflict of interest.

And what was he trying to do making it harder for cyclists because it’s inconvenient for car drivers – get with the 21st century Tom…driving a car is bad!

Anyway the election results tell Tom what the residents of Langridge think of his policies. They’re not the right fit!

Tom should put energy into trying to repair the wedge he drove between gay males and the rest of society through his elitist door polices. Thanks for that Tom. You do not represent me as a gay male and you do not represent me as a resident of Langridge.

Yours sincerely
Darren
“I’m Gay, I Cycle and I Vote”

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]]> By: brian http://indolentdandy.net/fitzroyalty/2008/11/13/city-of-yarra-elections-honesty-and-accountability/#comment-21758 brian Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:00:42 +0000 http://indolentdandy.net/fitzroyalty/?p=3165#comment-21758 In response to your claims: WRONG - you are NOT the only candidate to spell out your policies on a flyer. I have flyers sitting on my desk from Labor, the Greens and the Socialist Party. LOGICAL FLAW - I am not in favour of public drinking and did not say I was. You have made a false assumption based on a basic flaw in logical reasoning. UNSUITABLE - I was commenting on the potential for conflicts of interest based on a comparison of your business interests and your policy ideas. If you are incapable of seeing this or don't understand why conflicts of interest are an accountability problem, you ared not suited to public office. FIGHT CLUB - Many candidates have made various committments to local issues. You are not unique. You are not special. In response to your claims:
WRONG – you are NOT the only candidate to spell out your policies on a flyer. I have flyers sitting on my desk from Labor, the Greens and the Socialist Party.
LOGICAL FLAW – I am not in favour of public drinking and did not say I was. You have made a false assumption based on a basic flaw in logical reasoning.
UNSUITABLE – I was commenting on the potential for conflicts of interest based on a comparison of your business interests and your policy ideas. If you are incapable of seeing this or don’t understand why conflicts of interest are an accountability problem, you ared not suited to public office.
FIGHT CLUB – Many candidates have made various committments to local issues. You are not unique. You are not special.

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]]> By: Tom McFeely http://indolentdandy.net/fitzroyalty/2008/11/13/city-of-yarra-elections-honesty-and-accountability/#comment-21757 Tom McFeely Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:34:06 +0000 http://indolentdandy.net/fitzroyalty/?p=3165#comment-21757 Well, its obvious who you vote for! I have been the only candidate to actually SPELL out my ideas and policies in detail on a flyer. I have not tried to be vague and tell people what they want to hear. As for my public drinking policy. How naive are you. Do you think I am standing for council to boost my business? I want public drinking banned as it upsets residents; publicans; and the police. Maybe I'm a fool. But can you or anyone tell me why we should SUPPORT public drinking? What you forgert is that I am standing for what I believe in. I don't have a particular political or party politics agenda influencing my thoughts. All I want is for councilors to do their job and not focus on their egos or their partys idealogy. I would happily withdraw from the election if I thought my action would help bring stability and common sense to the council in which I pay a lot of rates. Can any other candidate honestly say that they focus on local issues? i'm happy to discuss any issues with you, whatever your name is. tom mcfeely Well, its obvious who you vote for!

I have been the only candidate to actually SPELL out my ideas and policies in detail on a flyer. I have not tried to be vague and tell people what they want to hear.
As for my public drinking policy. How naive are you. Do you think I am standing for council to boost my business? I want public drinking banned as it upsets residents; publicans; and the police. Maybe I’m a fool. But can you or anyone tell me why we should SUPPORT public drinking?

What you forgert is that I am standing for what I believe in. I don’t have a particular political or party politics agenda influencing my thoughts. All I want is for councilors to do their job and not focus on their egos or their partys idealogy. I would happily withdraw from the election if I thought my action would help bring stability and common sense to the council in which I pay a lot of rates. Can any other candidate honestly say that they focus on local issues?

i’m happy to discuss any issues with you, whatever your name is.

tom mcfeely

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